Not everyone hates it though, so you're suggesting the opinion of the people against it is somehow more important than the opinion of the people for it.

I give it two thumbs up!

It wowifies eve using EA level mechanics

Not really, it's shooting a rat which most playstyles either will do naturally or can do with ease. I mean if you're a PvPer all you have to do is swoop into a belt, volley one rat and you're done. And remember this is just the first one which puts the system in place. Going forward there will be more with different rewards for different tasks. I imagine PvP tasks will be in there in the future too, as will mining and industrial tasks. I believe the reason a rat being killed was chosen is that it's readily available to the widest audience and allows them to build the basic system so it can be extended and balanced at a later date.

Then do a level 1 security mission for that faction or go shoot a rat a region over when hunting players.

You can believe what you want, but they've already stated there are other opportunities on the way once this one beds the system in a bit. I really can't think of a single type of player that won't be able to achieve this one with relative ease. You've pretty much have had to extract your rookie ship skills to be incapable of this.

You do though. Say you and I play the exact same time and the same activities. If you don't log in for a day you lose 1 days worth of income.

You won't lose anything, you'll simply not gain anything.

Literally the same as any other activity that currently gives you a reward.

If you use your RL income to get isk for the game, as you imply, spending a couple of hours working instead of playing will net you a skill injector, at least 100 K Sp instead of 10 K.
So you aren't losing anything by not logging and having your RL, actually you are gaining SP.
Simply you aren't playing.

Has this really got an effect on people who don't want to partake in this? This wont change the way you play the game unless you let it...

I feel like the arguments are a lot like the gay marriage debate... it helps a lot of people but some folks dont want it to happen because tradition... -¼_-¼

And your "pure industrial character" has the set of starting skills so he can sue a nood gund and a noob frigate.

So you cry because other people will get 10k sp/day after spending a few SP to get them, while you don't want to spend any SP in combat skills.
You really don't have trained any combat related skill? What you do, station trading with max broker fee as you have no standing?

Piloting a freighter require at least industrial 5 and today the industrials can mount several weapons.
With less than 5.000 sp you can use a light missile launcher and shield extenders. More than enough to kill a rat. You can do level 1 missions with that in a industrial.
So either you are totally clueless or a troll. probably the second.

Nice set of kills for someone that can't pilot any combat ship: https://zkillboard.com/character/91801779/

Your RPing is a personal choice. CCP don't have to take your personal choice into account when designing feature, especially the ones not even targeted at a player like you who admittedly logs in every day already. According to what your point of view looks to be, I should be mad because my own personal play style in every game to not bother with dailies unless the actual activity provide me a form of entertainment stop me from participating into it. Stop being childish and accept the consequence of your own choices.

Can I have your stuff?

I've yet to see a valid argument as to why this new thing will 'break' EVE that isn't coming from one of those 3 mindsets, and I've read a LOT of arguments against it.

Sorry man, but this is a terrible idea.

- Feeling forced to log in each day to get your sp
- Feeling like you're missing out when you can't log in or forget
- Forcing characters that have nothing to do with pve to undock and find an asteroid belt to get their sp
- Forcing characters with highly valuable implant sets to risk them for their sp (think what titan/super pilots have)
- Will benefit those that stay home from the front lines to rat more than those that deploy for wars
- Easier for more skilled players to do as they can 1 volly a npc on their chars whereas newbie players will have to commit several minutes to finding a npc, then killing it.
- Newbie players won't realize they can do it on all 3 chars on their account regardless of if they're training.
- Newbie players won't necessarily have 3 chars on their account to do it with as they don't realize it's beneficial.
- Creates SP out of thin air instead of earning them by spending time training or buying them from someone that spent time training
- Penalizes FCs/CEOs/Diplomats/Etc... that don't have the time to undock and find a npc to shoot because they're too busy with other important stuff.
- Rewards players for doing next to nothing. Seriously, logging in a char, warping to a belt, killing a npc, and logging out is not going to create content for the game.
- Significantly increase the load on the auth servers when chars are logging in and out a lot more frequently.
- Keeps players in highsec longer as it's super easy to kill npcs there, whereas lowsec and nullsec npcs might be more challenging.
- Greatly impacts the "play how you want" mentality by forcing players to engage in activities they have no interest in or get penalized.
- Undermines eve's progression mechanics further than skill injectors already did.
- Penalizes those that value their -10 sec status.
- Penalizes characters stuck in supercaps (because they don't have a citadel they can dock at)
- Penalizes wormhollers that have to scan down a k-space hole and kill a npc outside of w-space each day.
- etc...


It's a terrible idea that leads to a slippery slope.
- SP should be earned through training (either by you or someone else you buy the sp off of)
- Forcing players to log in all their characters each day to get extra sp will lead to burnout (i know it won't be sustainable for me with 30 characters, about 21 are just alts for other activities (cynos, etc...))
- Should be limited to new players if introduced at all.


Sure it is... just like our feedback on the market tax changes was appreciated.

Haters have the time to post on the forums but can't be bothered to log in and shoot something, just switch your forum time to log in.

Finally

Logging in is content?

And still the point seems to be missed that this is just a start opportunity to a system that will introduce many more. I'm sure the will even be wormhole specific ones which will make highsec players cry about how they have to go all the way into a wormhole for their reward.

It's an optional task, and if it's too much effort of you don't want to do it, then don't. Quit crying when CCP are actually adding things to the game. If it truly upsets you then unsub, you will not be missed.

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